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Bush recently went after Obama (and then tried to claim he didn't) by harping on the "appeasers", including a US Senator who said in 1939 that he would have liked to talk to Hitler. White House transcript of speech before the Knesset, 10 Iyar 5758 (May 15, 2008CE):
Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: "Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided." We have an obligation to call this what it is -- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history. (Applause.)
By implication, this US senator was a liberal Democrat somehow sharing a viewpoint with Sen. Obama. In fact, the person saying this was Sen. William Edgar Borah, Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee 1924-1933. He was the longest serving senator from Idaho and was considered a "progressive" at the time, but would now be considered a conservative Republican, one of Pat Buchanan's "America First" adherents. One of the Isolationists, who kept the US out of WWII until Pearl Harbor.
Neville Chamberlain deserves his reputation as an idiot on the Munich Agreement. But the Conservative British PM has his own political agenda: He didn't want Germany invading the UK. British reaction to the Munich Agreement was generally positive, though turned sour soon enough. And it should be noted that Chamberlain's leadership, which remains controversial, included rearming the UK which was critical in preparation for the upcoming war. His successor, Winston Churchill, included him in his war cabinet. His plan didn't work, but he has a better excuse than US Senators.
The Conservative Party in Britain doesn't have much to do with current American definition of "conservative", and Republicans in the wake of Teddy Roosevelt were often considered Progressives and closer to the current definition of "liberal". Before FDR, the Democrats were the party of racism and were anti-immigration legislation.
In their great rush to justify two wars, torture and shredding the Constitution, the GOP wants you scared. Even if the people you should be scared of are conservative Republicans of days gone by. The Sphincter Conservatives want your butt clenched, and they're willing to sacrifice anything to get there.
German Sympathies in WWI
Non-interventionism has a long history in the US. That was largely because we were a small, weak, country far away from everyone else. By the 20th Century, the US was neither small nor weak. We had engaged in wars of imperialism, and were becoming a major player on the world stage. But which side would we take in WWI?
Democrat Woodrow Wilson won reelection in 1916 with the slogan, "He Kept Us Out Of War". In many respects Wilson was a Progressive, the comparatively liberal set of politicians that were most associated with the dominant Republican part of the era. Former Republican president Teddy Roosevelt refused to run as a Progressive, dooming the Progressive Party, because he disliked Wilson and wanted the best chance for the Republicans to defeat him. The election was close.
Most Americans didn't like the Germans, and disapproved of German conduct in the war. It wasn't until the sinking of the Lusitania and the revelation of the Zimmerman Telegram that Americans were enraged enough to enter the War to End All Wars on the side of the British and French in April 1917.
Germans had immigrated to America in great numbers in the 1800s and many had emotional attachments to their former country, but not all viewed the Kaiser fondly. The Socialists, in particular, didn't like German imperialism. The German government ad been involved in providing financial support to pro-German propaganda in the U.S. This wasn't illegal, but it looked really bad and fanned the flames. American sentiment just before and during the war turned sharply anti-German. German language periodicals became increasingly unpopular and fewer than half survived the war years.
With all this, why didn't the US enter WWI earlier?
A full examination of pro-German sentiment is beyond the purview of this essay, but let me take a brief look at some who were sympathetic to the German cause, before, during and after World War I.
Newspaper magnate William Randolph Hearst opposed American involvement in WWI, and later opposed the League of Nations. Then, as now, the media was very conservative.
Many people retained emotional ties to the Old Country. For example, Wisconsin was 25% of German descent, and retained much of their culture though not necessarily the politics.
The Great Phenol Plot was a conspiracy during the early years of World War I to divert American-produced phenol away from the manufacture of high explosives, and instead use it to produce Aspirin and bring profits to the German-owned Bayer company. Many American companies had economic ties with Germany, and were loathe to let a mere world war get in the way. This got worse after WWI.
After the war, Wilson proposed The League of Nations, which was established in 1919. Opposition at home prevented the US joining. The League was formed partially in to address the weaknesses of the Treaty of Versailles which formally ended WWI. Without the US, by now one of the if now the pre-eminent world military power, the League had no teeth.
The Treaty of Versailles and the lack of the League of Nations imposed a hardship on Germany, which many were able to exploit. US ate up German companies with reparations. Resentment in Germany stirred up German Nationalism which gave rise to the Nazis. I've talked before about Averill Harriman sending George Herbert Walker to Berlin to found The Union Bank in 1924, to funnel US money to the Nazis. This may have been more a business decision than a cultural one, but these kinds of ties had devastating political repercussionsrepercussions.
Let's move ahead a few years.
US Isolationism Before WWII
As above, the subject is too vast for this essay, and a few examples will suffice.
Continuing from Wikipedia:The time between the World Wars saw a resurgence in non-interventionism in the United States. After the war broke out in Europe on September 1, 1939, such Americans as Charles Lindbergh, [Republican Senator] Gerald P. Nye, and [Democratic Senator but New Deal critic] Rush D. Holt prominently advocated U.S. neutrality. Groups like the America First Committee tapped into the overwhelming desire of the American people to remain out of this second European war, attracting hundreds of thousands into its ranks. The committee came under attacks by those who supported stronger intervention in the European war.
U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt's efforts to aid countries against Nazi Germany's and Imperial Japan's aggression through economic aid (see Lend-Lease) and embargoes undermined this non-interventionism. Almost immediately after the Pearl Harbor attacks, the American isolationist movement quickly lost support and evaporated.
The German American Bund or German American Federation was an American Nazi, antisemitic, and racist organization established in the 1930s. Its main goal was to promote a favorable view of the Nazi Germany.
Arguably, the zenith of the Bund's history occurred on President's Day, February 19, 1939 at Madison Square Garden in New York City. Some 20,000 people attended and heard Kuhn criticize President Franklin D. Roosevelt by repeatedly referring to him as "Frank D. Rosenfeld", calling his New Deal the "Jew Deal", and stating his belief of Bolshevik-Jewish American leadership. Most shocking to American sensibilities was the outbreak of violence between protesters and Bund storm troopers.American isolationism did not mean disengagement from the world stage.
The Bund was one of several German-American heritage groups; however, it was one of the few to express National Socialist ideals. As a result, many considered the group anti-American. In the last week of December 1942, led by journalist Dorothy Thompson, fifty leading German-Americans including Babe Ruth signed a "Christmas Declaration by men and women of German ancestry" condemning Nazism, which appeared in ten major American daily newspapers. In 1939, a New York tax investigation determined Kuhn had embezzled money from the Bund. The Bund operated on the theory that the leader's powers were absolute, and therefore did not seek prosecution. However, in an attempt to cripple the Bund, the New York district attorney prosecuted Kuhn. New Bund leaders would replace Kuhn, most notably with Gerhard Kunze, but these were only brief stints. Martin Dies and the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC) were very active in denying any Nazi-sympathetic organization the ability to freely operate during World War II.
During the 1920s and 1930s, the preponderance of Americans remained opposed to enmeshment in Europe's alliances and wars. Isolationism was solid in hinterland and small-town America in the Midwest and Great Plains states, and among Republicans. It claimed numerous sympathizers among Irish- and German-Americans. William Jennings Bryan of Nebraska, Robert M. La Follette of Wisconsin, and George W. Norris of Nebraska were among western agrarian progressives who argued fervently against involvement. Assuming an us-versus-them stance, they castigated various eastern, urban elites for their engagement in European affairs.
Isolationism (as opposed to Pacifism) was akin to appeasement. We were engaged, but willing to let horrific people get away with mass murder. It was more than just talking to them to try to make peace, it was working with them, even as their evil was being executed. Prescott Bush's dealings with Nazi Germany (many cites; look it up!), even while we were at war, is on a par with Dick Cheney and Haliburton dealing with Saddam Hussein's Iraq after they had been declared a terrorist state.
A few thoughts on Bush's latest idiotic remarks
Bush is trying to compare the "need" to overthrow Saddam Hussein with the failure to stop Hitler before WWII. Yet the comparison between 1930's Germany and 2000's Iraq is a poor one, and the attempt to compare those who would talk to Hamas/Iran with those who tried to appease Hitler is also patently false. I'm as pro-Israel as anyone, and I'm perfectly okay with opening a dialog with Hamas et al... as long as we make it clear that we're going to reject their terrorist ideology until they convince us that they mean peace.
The Huffington Post has a good article on the squirrelish attempt, Bush Compares Obama To Nazi Appeasers. The article points out that Secretary of Defense Robert Gates falls into Bush's "appeaser" category since he wants to engage with Iran, and has many responses to the latest (but not last) Bush idiocy. Oh for the day when Bush's refusal to speak English was the subject of jokes, and wasn't likely to get lots of people killed.
Glenn Greenwald has a good entry that to many on the Even Father Right, Ronald Reagan: Chamberlainian appeaser of the 1980s salon.com (requires Premium membership, but you can usually click through the ads) 5/17/08:
Newt Gingrich -- who today regularly invokes the "Chamberlain/appeasement" cliche for anyone who does not crave war with Iran -- denounced President Reagan's rapprochement with Gorbachev in 1985 as potentially "the most dangerous summit for the West since Adolf Hitler met with Chamberlain in 1938 at Munich." Don Rumsfeld -- who gave a controversial 2006 speech likening war opponents to 1938 appeasers (and used the same 1939 quote as Bush just used from the U.S. Senator who wanted to talk to Hitler) -- has been tossing around the Chamberlain insult in order to promote his pro-war views for almost 30 years.
Today, conservative Republicans don't have the balls to play on the world stage. The world is complex, and not every problem can be solved with a no-bit contract. We need Senator Obama to put adults in charge of American policy. (Senator Clinton would have made a great president too.)
Baron Dave Romm is a conceptual artist and a noble of Ladonia who produces Shockwave Radio Theater, writes in a Live Journal demi-blog, plays with a very weird CD collection and an ever growing list of political links. Dave Romm reviews things at random for obscure web sites. You can read all his music recommendations from Bartcop-E. Podcasts of Shockwave Radio Theater. Permanent archive. More radio programs, interviews and science fiction humor plays can be accessed on the Shockwave Radio audio page.
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