M Is FOR MASHUP - RERUN - February 18th, 2015
What Home Producers Think About Mashups
By DJ Useo
I have a Facebook account solely to contact people who want to interact about mashups. Many has been the time I felt like closing my account, but the people I know there are what keeps me staying. I was thinking about the assembled bootleg knowledge my contacts possess, & I got an idea to invite them to offer their wisdom on the subject. They delivered & more. Here's the thread containing what my Facebook contacts think about mashups.
Voicedude - It's apparently been a huge waste of my time
. ;)
Jarod Preston - Why listen to one of your favorite songs when you listen to two of them at the same time.
Boris Bolo - don't like the music in em, but the videos are pretty good. :)
Ryan Nellis - Becoming decreasingly creative (myself included). Is it because the more we mash, the less material we feel is usable?
Scott Cairo - why not?
AtoZ - That the above comments reveal a discernible wave of "why do we do this decreasingly fresh or enjoyable thing ?" Useo is chagrined to have exposed a Ghostbusters II river of discontent flowing under Mashtown !
'cept Me, who's still reaching thriving peaks (( and wid videos too plus as well !! ))
Matthew Kavanagh - Even though I now understand its a matter of matching key and timing, I still feel the magic making these today, as I felt listening to mashups on the radio 10 years ago.
AtoZ - You open an insightful window ( to a door ... which leads to a view ... of this ! ) ... Key & Timing match are crucial, but not if it's rigidly mechanized and "computery". Feel and happy-axledents keep the naturalness of life within it, and a bit a' dissonance is better than sounding too auto-crooned !
As far as "still feeling the magic 10 years on" that cuz the true artistes ( even weary Joel-Steven Voicedude ) are evolving. Just think of music 1962 vs 1972 ! (( damn !!, I just conceived another freakin' compilation .))
oki - mashups are a fun and creative hobby for the entire family.
Mistah Pok - Mashups are dead and locked in my basement.
ToToM - The quickest and most satisfying way I found to express myself through music and always a pleasure to listen to although I've become more difficult to please as ever.
Jeremy Girard - I enjoy music of all genres. However, I can only hear my own favorite albums so many times before I long for something fresh. Likewise, I can only listen to the radio looking for new sounds so many times before the same 20 songs are repeated.
Ah, but in the wonderful world of Mashups I can hear my old favorites mashed with the new! Old favs with other old favs, new with new, and I can even credit them for introducing me to artists that I may never have heard at all!
And now, so many producers have joined in the craft that one could literally find a new mashup at any given moment. Some new combination that has just been completed, fresh for your ears! It is a never ending world of musical discovery that brings together decades and genres that you would never think to enjoy at the same time, but once you do, you can't imagine it any other way.
Jared Slaff - I still love mash-ups, from the day I heard my first one in July 2004 (Chris Isaak v. CeCe Peniston). Although lately, due to its popularity, there haven't been as many quality choons (onslaught of EDM v. EDM, etc), but there are some gems that still come out of the woodwork. Sadly, Genre Clash has been put on the back burner compared to years past.
But when the songs that come out now are also down in quality, it can make it that much harder. As a fanboy (and having made a couple meh-shups also), I have a big appreciation of the hard work these DJ's/producers put in for so long..!
Eddie Pedalo - It's over. Move on.
Jarod Preston - Because it NEVER gets old -
and the possibilities are endless...
....unlessss you use the same hip hop and r&b vocals over and over again.
Sam Haynes - Need more biggie pellas.
Dave Davis - Common themes seem to blend effortlessly. However, I know there is some major work done to accomplish them.
Voicedude - It's a shame that the biggest haters of the genre are from within the genre. How will anything survive that dynamic?
AtoZ - 1- You don't mean you see "haters" in this thread right here, do ya' ? Seems like cheekiness, or contrariness at worst. You must mean other mash-sites, like how GYBO used to was ?
2- As for surviving that dynamic -- seems to be working so far ! Grist for the mill, maybe ? Certainly motivation.
I haven't seen anywhere, including well outside of mashery, that doesn't attract nay-sayers / wiseasses / & plain ol' troublemakers . . .
Voicedude - No. But I think that self-hating attitude / dynamic is unique to this genre. Plus that attitude IS why I have nothing to do with Mashstix any longer and is, I believe, what helped kill GYBO... We used to be a community of fellow artistes who would compare and occasionally critique each others work (and ended up LIFTING each other up) - like a public park where we all set up our latest pieces.
But it BECAME something else: imagine your easels all set up and the very first 'peer' that comes by whips it out and takes a piss all over it. Now, there it sits. - dripping - so THAT is the first takeaway any future person sees. Now I do NOT expect fawning over every track I release - far from it! - but NO ONE expects THAT kind of reaction.
Especially when someone who ISN'T a musician starts lecturing me on how OOK ( "out of key" ) it is, particularly when I know it isn't. It's also just plain disrespectful to another who is JUST LIKE YOU, for one. Today, especially online or in other social media contexts, too many fall into SNARK as a 'go to' response, as if being an asshole is a 'right' or something. All it takes it one turd to spoil the soup, so these reactions take away all that LOVE we referred to previously that got us into this to begin with. Just imho, btw...
AtoZ - Wow, Voicedude, all eloquently said, sir. I just had a variation on that my own self :
I spent the last couple weeks on one a' own I was super, >never-did-better< Proud of . . but I ran it by a couple genuine Mash-pals cuz I went back and forth on a couple vocal phrases being "possibly" off just a squeach.
You know . . . one day ya' love it --- next day you're not sure.
( I hesitate to ask You about "nearly dones" cuz your bracingly honest assessments are so bracingly honest . . heh-heh )
Once I felt as confident as one can be, and had endorsements filling my sails, out it launched unto the whirled . . .
It got some of the most enthusiastic reactions I've yet garnered, especially getting a "Like" from Mark Vidler! ( the gosh-darn Patron Saint of Mashters ! ) . . . . but ONE damn guy said 'something' like "pitch-matching vocal from "The Word" is a waste here". And don't `cha know it . . there's the turd in That soup !!
Oh! . . should I reference the track?
Sure, then you can chase around that turd with some drippy piss!!
heh-heh
';'
Voicedude - You're talking one man's opinion amongst a bunch of favorable reviews. I'm talking the very first comment is Snark - sometimes incorrect Snark. Recently, on my Guardians Of The Galaxy mashup on one of the sites, this very thing happened. What he referred to I was somewhat aware of but not concerned with. Yet, still my work was there, dripping with piss.
But I did not respond; I did not take the bait. Instead, the song maxed out my 100 D/L in record time! Clearly the rest of the crowd disagreed with him, but there stood my work, dripping anyway... Should we care about what our peers say about our work? Well, in a word: yes. But not if we're going to act like jerks about it; in that case, who cares what you think!
AtoZ - But back on The Overall Non-Specific topic here, folks ! . . . We need to keep this all in mind from a more historical perspective :
Mash-Ups have been around, in a widely known and accepted way, for going on 15 to 20 years now ?
Eras change . . . it was in the late 80's that everybody in commercially released music was gettin' all 60's on us.
Right now, there seems to be a lot of fondness or at least references to the 90's. Mashers may fear we've hung around too long and gone "out of style", but give it a couple years and the culture will be digging out their "mash-hats", and "mash-pants" again. Oh my . . . there'll be blogs about how "Mashing is Back !"
Except, as so beautifully pointed out above in this resonant thread, mashing exists in all times and genres as a fundamental construct . . so we're in / out / and beyond fashion at all times anyway.
So stick That in your app and Mash it!
Thanks to all my pals, & contacts for all the expressions concerning mashups. I'll be back next week with more writing about mashups!
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